User talk:SchezoWegay

Characters and Disorders

Hi, I'm sorry if I offended you. but I still feel that it's rude to judge whether someone is clinically odd or not. Momochi (talk) 21:27, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

It's fine! It's honestly not a very big deal for me, I just had a very small amount of space to write with so it was hard to get the right tone. Thank you for apologizing! I'm actually having a very hard time responding to this. I really don't want to start an argument or debate, but I promise you it's not rude considering that Schezo is a fictional character. Maybe you thought you were looking at a different page about a real person? I don't know. And I don't want to sound rude but the term "clinically odd" is something you probably shouldn't say. Everyone makes mistakes, but you should just know that terms like neurodivergent are much better. --SchezoWegay (talk) 23:56, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for introducing that word to me. So the term is being depathologized? By "autistic" you didn't mean with autistic spectrum disorder, but neuroatypical? Momochi (talk) 11:51, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Oh, no, sorry for the confusion! I did mean ASD! I have just not heard the term "clinically odd" used anywhere else in any other context, so I took it at face value. SchezoWegay (talk) 15:39, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't quite understand. Don't ASD and neurodivergence conflict with each other in terms of de/pathologization? "He has a disorder" virtually reads "he's odd" to me; or are you saying I shouldn't paraphrase it dysphemistically? Momochi (talk) 12:40, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Okay, so, friend of SchezoWegay here. Let me lay a few things out. You should probably listen to actual autistic people in regards to autistic wording. Using words like "clinically odd," can just seem offensive to us. Plus, neurodivergent (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurodiversity) is an umbrella term for a number of, well, brain stuff. Stuff like ADHD, autism, ADD, and many other things all fit under that. I also feel as if, during an argument, using words like "depathologization" and "dysphemistically" only succeeds in adding more confusion and miscommunication. Using such words in an academic source is fine to a degree, but, statistically speaking, using words that few understand makes others lose interest during an argument, and can make selling a point less likely to happen. (socialtriggers.com/the-big-problem-with-big-words-hint-they-make-you-look-stupid) (while the title is somewhat vulgar, I am not implying anything about your intelligence, it is just an interesting read.) I feel as if you don't understand your own argument- perhaps do some research regarding the topic; maybe research made by actual autistic people? Autistic people know more about being neurodivergent than neurotypical people, plain and simple. --Probotype (talk) 01:10, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Probotype. I admit that my wording had been distracting. My point was: SchezoWegay wrote Schezo is "implied to be autistic" which means he has a disorder. And calling autism a disorder is against diversity. Therefore the edit must be reverted. I'd like to hear your thoughts for or against. Momochi (talk) 10:44, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm... speechless... I don't even know how to describe what you just said... I never once used the word disorder until now. I only said Schezo is implied to be autistic and provided proof. I cannot tell whether you're making assumptions, jumping to conclusions, or just putting words in my mouth. I'm sorry but I can no longer be as polite as before, I just can't do it. It is also increasingly obvious that you don't know the first thing about autism. Autism is medically classified as a mental disorder. Perhaps you got that confused with a mental illness? Also, I'm sure telling someone that it's wrong to say a character is implied to be autistic is more against diversity than saying a character is implied to be autistic. If you are not just trying to cause trouble and legitimately believe what you say, perhaps you should talk to autistic people more and hear what they have to say. SchezoWegay (talk) 00:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Ah, thank you for clearing things up. No wonder I've been upsetting you, I'm truly sorry for the trouble. I appreciate you being polite and patient with me. Momochi (talk) 11:43, 1 February 2019 (UTC)